Nuremberg Trials: Select Commentary
November 6, 2015
G.D.O'Bradvoich III
If things truly were as they are perceived,
then The Exciting World of Occult Research™ could not exist.
Former/Future Apprentice Brock
then The Exciting World of Occult Research™ could not exist.
Former/Future Apprentice Brock
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MR.JUSTICE JACKSON: And certain experiments were also conducted and certain researches conducted in atomic energy, were they not?
SPEER: We had not got as far as that, unfortunately, because the finest experts we had in atomic research had emigrated to America, and this had thrown us back a great deal in our research, so that we still needed another year or two in order to achieve any results in the splitting of the atom.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: The policy of driving people out who didn't agree with Germany hadn't produced very good dividends, had it?
SPEER: Especially in this sphere [atomic research] it was a great disadvantage to us.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, I have certain information... of an experiment which was carried out near Auschwitz and I would like to ask you if you heard about it or knew about it. The purpose of the experiment was to find a quick and complete way of destroying people without the delay and trouble of shooting and gassing and burning, as it had been carried out, and this is the experiment, as I am advised.
A village, a small village was provisionally erected, with temporary structures, and in it approximately 20,000 Jews were put. By means of this newly invented weapon of destruction, these 20,000 people were eradicated almost instantaneously, and in such a way that there was no trace left of them; ... the explosive developed, temperatures of from 400 to 500 centigrade and destroyed them without leaving any trace at all. Do you know about that experiment?
SPEER: No, and I consider it utterly improbable. If we had had such a weapon under preparation, I should have known about it. But we did not have such a weapon. It is clear that in chemical warfare, attempts were made on both sides to carry out research on all the weapons one could think of, because one did not know which party would start chemical warfare first.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: The reports, then, of a new and secret weapon were exaggerated for the purpose of keeping the German people in the war?
SPEER: That was the case mostly during the last phase of the war...
I first read this exchange in “The Reich of the Black Sun” by Nick Cook. This fascinating book leads to several conclusions, most notably that Germany had enriched uranium and developed the atomic bomb as early as 1944. We are enamored of Cook's appellation of the "Allied Legend" regarding certain aspects of the Allied victory. Mr. Cook's thoughtful conclusions are beyond the scope of this modest essay, as we are only commenting on the limited dialog at the introduction of this paper.
It is interesting that this exchange between Jackson and Speer has no bearing on further queries in the trial and, in this respect, it is similar to the esoteric writing technique where the author starts with the important information that is to be concealed and places text before and after it, for the purpose of obscuring the truth from careless readers.
Jackson asks if “certain experiments … and certain researches ... in atomic energy” where carried out by Germany. We note that the word “certain” is specific, yet not defined. Nor will "certain" be clarified or expanded upon. I assume that this wording is typical of legal practitioners.
“We had not got as far as that...”, Speer responded and we presume that he is referring to both experiments and researches. The presumption is not certain.
Speer states that “the finest experts” emigrated and this adversely affected Germany's research. We must assume that those scientists and Nobel Prize winners who remained in Germany, such as Heisenberg, were only experts and not “the finest experts”. Speer adds that Germany “still needed another year or two in order to achieve any results in the splitting of the atom.” We note that the “splitting of the atom” is to be understood as occurring only after the effective means of purifying sufficient quantities of uranium or plutonium has been accomplished.
While Speer's ability as a project manager is not in question, we have no evidence that he had any expertise in mapping and projecting the successful development of Germany's nuclear program. Therefore, his response that Germany needed another year or so to achieve results is of questionable worth. We are forced to concluded that Speer's statement is either based on the experiences and judgments of the second rate “experts” that were available to him, or the statement was misleading. If Speer was attempting to mislead, then the time frame might be less than two years, possibly less than a year.
It is interesting that this exchange between Jackson and Speer has no bearing on further queries in the trial and, in this respect, it is similar to the esoteric writing technique where the author starts with the important information that is to be concealed and places text before and after it, for the purpose of obscuring the truth from careless readers.
Jackson asks if “certain experiments … and certain researches ... in atomic energy” where carried out by Germany. We note that the word “certain” is specific, yet not defined. Nor will "certain" be clarified or expanded upon. I assume that this wording is typical of legal practitioners.
“We had not got as far as that...”, Speer responded and we presume that he is referring to both experiments and researches. The presumption is not certain.
Speer states that “the finest experts” emigrated and this adversely affected Germany's research. We must assume that those scientists and Nobel Prize winners who remained in Germany, such as Heisenberg, were only experts and not “the finest experts”. Speer adds that Germany “still needed another year or two in order to achieve any results in the splitting of the atom.” We note that the “splitting of the atom” is to be understood as occurring only after the effective means of purifying sufficient quantities of uranium or plutonium has been accomplished.
While Speer's ability as a project manager is not in question, we have no evidence that he had any expertise in mapping and projecting the successful development of Germany's nuclear program. Therefore, his response that Germany needed another year or so to achieve results is of questionable worth. We are forced to concluded that Speer's statement is either based on the experiences and judgments of the second rate “experts” that were available to him, or the statement was misleading. If Speer was attempting to mislead, then the time frame might be less than two years, possibly less than a year.
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Mr. Justice Jackson: The policy of driving people out who didn't agree with Germany hadn't produced very good dividends, had it?
Speer: Especially in this sphere [atomic research] it was a great disadvantage to us.
We note that Jackson could have used the word "results" instead of "dividends" when referring to the effects of Germany's domestic policies. However, he uses a financial term that describes the payment received from ownership of common or preferred stocks. Depending on the time and place, Nazi propaganda accused the Jews of controlling all public companies, either directly or indirectly through stock ownership.
Speer acknowledges a “great disadvantage” in atomic research, but we acknowledge that Germany was at a great disadvantage by not having rubber trees and at a disadvantage by not have sufficient oil reserves. There were various attempts throughout the war to overcome both deficiencies through science, that is, chemistry. Germany was also greatly disadvantaged as it did not have any uranium mines until the addition of the Sudetenland to Germany in 1939. [Vide Jáchymov]
Speer acknowledges a “great disadvantage” in atomic research, but we acknowledge that Germany was at a great disadvantage by not having rubber trees and at a disadvantage by not have sufficient oil reserves. There were various attempts throughout the war to overcome both deficiencies through science, that is, chemistry. Germany was also greatly disadvantaged as it did not have any uranium mines until the addition of the Sudetenland to Germany in 1939. [Vide Jáchymov]
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Mr. Justice Jackson: Now, I have certain information... of an experiment which was carried out near Auschwitz and I would like to ask you if you heard about it or knew about it.
Auschwitz is in upper Silesia where there is an abundance of coal. We understand the question as pertaining to rumors [“if you heard about it”] and to formal reports or first hand experience [“knew about it”].
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The purpose of the experiment was to find a quick and complete way of destroying people without the delay and trouble of shooting and gassing and burning, as it had been carried out, and this is the experiment, as I am advised.
In the context, we understand “gassing” as using hydrogen cyanide to kill and “burning” as cremation of the corpses. We note the phrasing "as it had been carried out" as it was a statement of fact.
A “small village was provisionally erected... and in it approximately 20,000 Jews were put.”
The prosecutor understands that a small village is around 20,000 souls.
A “small village was provisionally erected... and in it approximately 20,000 Jews were put.”
The prosecutor understands that a small village is around 20,000 souls.
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By means of this newly invented weapon of destruction, these 20,000 people were eradicated almost instantaneously, and in such a way that there was no trace left of them; ... the explosive developed, temperatures of from 400 to 500 centigrade and destroyed them without leaving any trace at all. Do you know about that experiment?
This "newly invented" weapon's temperature (up to 932 degrees Fahrenheit) means that it is not an atomic explosion. The temperature of a modern crematoria is over 1,600 degrees Fahrenheit to disintegrate the corpse. Clearly, 900 degrees Fahrenheit is not high enough to “almost instantaneously” eradicate people and this temperature can never be enough to disintegrate bones, regardless of the time. Therefore, regarding the specifics of time and temperature as related in the report, we conclude that Jackson's details are false. We can not know if either Jackson or Speer knew the time and temperature necessary to disintegrate human bones. We would not be surprised if Speer were ignorant of this information, but if Speer did know, he would have reasoned that it would be advisable to not correct Jackson so as not to allow Jackson a reason to inquire how Speer learned of the correct temperature to cremate human bones.
Perhaps the most intriguing part of this essay is how Speer responds to this “newly invented weapon” and its effect of disintegrating every person in the test area.
Perhaps the most intriguing part of this essay is how Speer responds to this “newly invented weapon” and its effect of disintegrating every person in the test area.
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Speer: No, and I consider it utterly improbable.
Speer clearly responds that he has not heard of the experiment ["No.."]. However, the remainder of the sentence is problematic. We can understand the response so that it is “improbable” that Germany had such a weapon, since Speer, as the Minister of Armaments, “should have known about it.” or we can understand the response of “improbable” as referring to human disintegration at a low temperature.
We are in the unfortunate position of deciding whether Jackson did have such a report [and misquoted the temperature of the detonated weapon] or not, and the honesty of Speer's response. If such an experiment was performed as Jackson related, then Speer was not aware of it, realized that the scenario is "improbable", or he is lying about his knowledge. If the report was factual with misquoted temperatures, then this would be an indication and evidence of a secret project, or possibly projects, that was not accessible to Speer as noted by Mr. Cook. If the report was created as Allied propaganda after the war and given to Jackson, then Speer could not know about an event that never happened.
We are in the unfortunate position of deciding whether Jackson did have such a report [and misquoted the temperature of the detonated weapon] or not, and the honesty of Speer's response. If such an experiment was performed as Jackson related, then Speer was not aware of it, realized that the scenario is "improbable", or he is lying about his knowledge. If the report was factual with misquoted temperatures, then this would be an indication and evidence of a secret project, or possibly projects, that was not accessible to Speer as noted by Mr. Cook. If the report was created as Allied propaganda after the war and given to Jackson, then Speer could not know about an event that never happened.
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But we did not have such a weapon. It is clear that in chemical warfare...
Since Speer previously admitted that the Germans did not have an atomic weapon, he responds as though the report refers to chemical warfare which is not unreasonable considering the temperature range quoted by Jackson. Speer adds that “attempts were made ... to carry out research on all the weapons one could think of” and reasons that “one did not know which party would start chemical warfare first.”
“All the Weapons one can think of” is an appropriate phrase when one considers the extent of verifiable "wonder weapons" that Germany proposed, designed, and constructed in the later stages of the war. We understand the wording "which party" as referring to either the Anglo American alliance or the Soviet Union. In light of Germany's painful experience with chemical weapons in the Great War and the construction of air tight bunkers throughout Germany [including the Fuehrer's bunker in Berlin], Speer's comments are intelligible regarding the possible use of chemical weapons by the Allies.
“All the Weapons one can think of” is an appropriate phrase when one considers the extent of verifiable "wonder weapons" that Germany proposed, designed, and constructed in the later stages of the war. We understand the wording "which party" as referring to either the Anglo American alliance or the Soviet Union. In light of Germany's painful experience with chemical weapons in the Great War and the construction of air tight bunkers throughout Germany [including the Fuehrer's bunker in Berlin], Speer's comments are intelligible regarding the possible use of chemical weapons by the Allies.
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Mr. Justice Jackson: The reports, then, of a new and secret weapon were exaggerated for the purpose of keeping the German people in the war?
Jackson refers to only one "new and secret weapon" in his query when the plural "weapons" would have been acceptable and accurate, as we known today. We are forced to conclude that many new weapons were known to the Allies during the war, but there existed one that remained a secret and its "reports" were "exaggerated".
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Speer: That was the case mostly during the last phase of the war...
From the limited information found in this transcript, we are not in a position to find "proof" of Germany's possession of an atomic bomb during World War II, as trials are not the proper forum for determining historical facts. However, as Mr. Cook noted, there remains a possibility of "black ops" or operations "off the books" regarding either conventional or nuclear weapons and, sometimes, possibilities are all that is needed in The Wonderful World of Occult Research™.